Johan and Gunnar talks with Farazee Asif who has been a teacher at KTH for almost 15 years and has, among other things, been involved in developing and running the course Circular Manufacturing Systems. For this work, he was awarded KTH's pedagogical prize 2023. The course has several features that makes it unique in its kind, including combining theory and practice in a framework in a pedagogical and useful way that is appreciated by the students.